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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181  View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 This one's really for Al. Nice choice on buying the Canon mate :P As for macro, I took this using 135mm lens with a +2 close up lens bolted on the front. This means of course, I was close to strike-range taking this pic, but she was pretty laid back and not at all aggressive. Took this at Ash, your neck of the woods really Interestingly, and I'm not sure why yet...The canon has trouble auto-focusing on adders. MF works a beaut, but must be something to do with adder contrast which foxes the AF, all other reptiles it seems fine.
Steve Langham - Chairman 
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Jeroen Senior Member Joined: 03 Nov 2004 No. of posts: 121  View other posts by Jeroen |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 Autofocus trouble? Weird, don't have that with my 300D... - hope it's OK that I am adding some recent adder pictures of mine (from Belgium) ...
and this is a Vipera seoanei (same Canon EOS 300D still) from SW-France ...
Jeroen Speybroeck http://www.hylawerkgroep.be/jeroen/ |
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*SNAKE* Senior Member Joined: 16 May 2004 No. of posts: 220  View other posts by *SNAKE* |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 guess what im getting for chistmas ? paul PAUL SMITH |
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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181 View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 That second pic is a cracker !  I don't know the species (seoanei), are they similar size to berus ? They seem a more robust build ? Steve Langham - Chairman
Surrey Amphibian & Reptile Group (SARG). |
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Alan Hyde Senior Member Joined: 17 Apr 2003 No. of posts: 1416 View other posts by Alan Hyde |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 Luuuurverly pics Steve ,Jeroen.
Here's a couple of macro pics from my E20 
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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090  View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 Thanks guys for cheering me up on a particularly crap day, I could sit and look at these pics all night Now the big question, do I buy a Cannon EOS 350D or a 8700 Coolpix? Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181 View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 I really like the top one Al ! Gemma, I'd say whatever you buy in that price range will deliver the results. What made my mind up was walking into a shop and trying them, actually holding them and seeing how they 'felt'. Personally I found the Nikon autofocus quite clunky, (Canon USM is lubberly!) and the viewfinder not as clear as the Canon. I think the 350 is a bit lighter than my EOS 20D. The only fault I have with the 20D is it is a little on the heavy side. After a day's tramping about with it round my neck, I feel it. And for some of those 'yoga-position' shots using one hand, you feel the weight too. I think the coolpix is also an 8Mp camera ?, so no difference there. I do hear the D70 is a bargin at the moment, since they brought out the D70S too. Steve Langham - Chairman
Surrey Amphibian & Reptile Group (SARG). |
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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 Thanks for that Steve, sounds like a good idea to go try them out. IÆve been comparing specs but field friendliness will be the most important consideration at the end of the day for me.  Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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B Lewis Krag Committee Joined: 24 Aug 2004 No. of posts: 146  View other posts by B Lewis |
Posted: 04 Jul 2005 Hey Guys, Such fantastic photography.. Superb all round Gemma, I have the 300D, no problems with that at 6.3Mp but I suppose if your going to spend the money go for as many Mp's as possible, the digital zoom/crop is a great asset. Keep up the great work people, the pictures on this site just keep getting better. Kind regards Brett. Lewis Ecology Brett Lewis Photography Kent Reptile & Amphibian Group DICE - University of Kent |
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Jeroen Senior Member Joined: 03 Nov 2004 No. of posts: 121 View other posts by Jeroen |
Posted: 05 Jul 2005 [QUOTE=Vicar] I don't know the species (seoanei), are they similar size to berus ? They seem a more robust build ? [/QUOTE] Yes, they are similar. Up until somewhere in the 80's (I think) they used to be treated as a subspecies (Vipera berus seoanei). They live in the north of Spain and both the extreme north of Portugal as well as the extreme southwest of France, thus their range is completely separated from the range of the Adder (see SEH atlas map). The scales on top of the head are often more fragmented and they exhibit a seemingly larger(?) morphological variability, including quite a high number of black individuals. If you'd like to see where my observation came from, you may want to check my Pyrenees 2004 trip report. There are some more pictures of (partly the same animals) here. Jeroen Speybroeck http://www.hylawerkgroep.be/jeroen/ |
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Alan Hyde Senior Member Joined: 17 Apr 2003 No. of posts: 1416 View other posts by Alan Hyde |
Posted: 05 Jul 2005 Thanks Brett, Steve , Gemma! 
Gemma , I agree with most of what Steve said , But please do try out the Olympus E1 or E300 too, superb cameras. Steve, The Olympus cameras make the 20D feel really light . The first thing i thought when picking up the 20d was , "wooah , light as a feather" LOL! I personally prefer a heavy camera, dunno why. Anyway , like Steve said ..most in that price range will deliver . Let us know what you choose O-> O+> |
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rhysrkid Senior Member Joined: 14 Nov 2003 No. of posts: 98  View other posts by rhysrkid |
Posted: 05 Jul 2005 If people are looking for a light dig SLR they may want to try the pentax ist d/ds cameras, which are apprently the lightest on the market with good reviews... Rhys |
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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181 View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 05 Jul 2005 I did try the D-ist, after a friend bought one, and I really thought that's what I'd end up with. Yup its very light, but the viewfinder wasn't up to my expectations from Pentax, I personally found it dull and not as crisp as the Canon. The poor sync speed of the Pentax lets it down, otherwise....very nice camera. Again, a very subjective assessment, but it didn't sit well in my hands either. The body was slightly too small to be comfortable. Steve Langham - Chairman
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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 06 Jul 2005 [QUOTE=Jeroen] [QUOTE=Vicar] I don't know the species (seoanei), are they similar size to berus ? They seem a more robust build ? [/QUOTE] Yes, they are similar. Up until somewhere in the 80's (I think) they used to be treated as a subspecies (Vipera berus seoanei). They live in the north of Spain and both the extreme north of Portugal as well as the extreme southwest of France, thus their range is completely separated from the range of the Adder (see SEH atlas map). The scales on top of the head are often more fragmented and they exhibit a seemingly larger(?) morphological variability, including quite a high number of black individuals. If you'd like to see where my observation came from, you may want to check my Pyrenees 2004 trip report. There are some more pictures of (partly the same animals) here. [/QUOTE] If I ever had a reason to visit Northern Spain I've just seen it Thanks for the camera advice guys, I can't wait to get a new camera, put up with my rubbish Kodak DC280 for years, really annoying when peeps ask how do find adders and I see them all the time and can't get a decent photograph PS someone post another piccy, this page has tooooooo much text! Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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Vicar Senior Member Joined: 02 Sep 2004 No. of posts: 1181 View other posts by Vicar |
Posted: 06 Jul 2005 At your command !...this is actually the same Adder as posted above. I should have used a faster shutter
Steve Langham - Chairman
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Jeroen Senior Member Joined: 03 Nov 2004 No. of posts: 121 View other posts by Jeroen |
Posted: 06 Jul 2005 As you wish ...
Jeroen Speybroeck http://www.hylawerkgroep.be/jeroen/ |
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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 06 Jul 2005 Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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*SNAKE* Senior Member Joined: 16 May 2004 No. of posts: 220 View other posts by *SNAKE* |
Posted: 06 Jul 2005 PAUL SMITH |
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B Lewis Krag Committee Joined: 24 Aug 2004 No. of posts: 146 View other posts by B Lewis |
Posted: 06 Jul 2005 Here's a couple more for you... Some old, some recent... But I really must get out and take a few more close-ups.. Brett
Lewis Ecology Brett Lewis Photography Kent Reptile & Amphibian Group DICE - University of Kent |
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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 06 Jul 2005 Must be the tenth time I've been back to look at these pics, great stuff Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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